tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post429832577155285156..comments2024-03-27T14:38:55.830-07:00Comments on The Vaccine Machine: Looney and the Beast: deconstructing the ramblings of a vaccine extremistRobert Schecterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17592918924115887297noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-64403038970392040322015-02-28T07:19:54.508-08:002015-02-28T07:19:54.508-08:00You're an idiot, or you're just plain craz...You're an idiot, or you're just plain crazy. HIV is the only thing that causes AIDS. I have a family member with Lyme disease, and another family member with HIV (who, by the way, did not receive the same childhood vaccinations as I did because they're 67). It's not even remotely the same disease. If it was, the anti-retroviral (notice VIRAL, because Spirochaetes are bacteria) medications my HIV+ family member would never work as well as they have to prevent the onset of AIDS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-85921138840016412282014-03-23T16:06:44.011-07:002014-03-23T16:06:44.011-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.ocean serviciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12627853207103340161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-2468632723562181592014-03-18T20:19:43.162-07:002014-03-18T20:19:43.162-07:00Hey,
To be a troll this is pretty good. I recogni...Hey,<br />To be a troll this is pretty good. I recognize many of the steps from the handbook. Everybody needs a good laugh and thank you for providing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-50249787879660459712014-03-18T20:15:50.431-07:002014-03-18T20:15:50.431-07:00Measles is severe enough as the chances of a truly...Measles is severe enough as the chances of a truly bad case are fairly low, but the chances of catching it are very high. Being prepared seems prudent, at least to me.<br /><br />Measles is a mild disease and didn't become a "killer" until the pharmaceutical industry got blanket immunity in 2002 from prosecution if they kill a child. Up till than, Eli Lilly and big pharma were being sued by parents for vaccine damage. Once the vaccine industry got blanket immunity, measles became this incredible killer disease and people who lives their lives in fear of every germ, embraced the thought the measles were hiding behind every corner. Just follow the money. Go to the CDC website and watch how they pull down webpages when too many people are accessing certain pages like they did with the SV-40 webpage. 5 have died from measles since 1998 according to the National Vital Statics Report from the CDC. The government lies! So do you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-9069719748168424172014-03-18T20:08:17.073-07:002014-03-18T20:08:17.073-07:00Please provide verifiable data to the fact that ch...Please provide verifiable data to the fact that children will die if they are not vaccinated. Since you are a molecular biologist please answer the following questions: <br /><br />1. provide one Independent double-blind, placebo-controlled study that can prove the safety and effectiveness of vaccines?<br /><br />2. provide scientific evidence on ANY study which can confirm the long-term safety and effectiveness of vaccines?<br /><br />3. provide scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?<br /><br />Independent means no vaccine industry, CDC, FDA, IOM, IOH, no medical associations such as AAP or AMA, no universities who who has received any money from the pharmaceutical industry and no researchers who has received any financial, academic or professional assistance from the pharmaceutical industry. <br /><br />I have a copy of the CDC's National Vital Statics Report from 1940 -2012 (presently updating) and I can tell you specifically how many children have died from childhood diseases. As a molecular biologist you should be familiar with these documents. Just to give you an example, <br />5 people in the US have died from measles since 1998. 3 children were immunosuppressed and the other two just had question marks next to their age & sex. <br /><br />There are under 10 cases of measles in NY and they are calling it an outbreak-seriously! Measles has become such a mild illness that most countries outside of the US don't even give it such as Japan which stopped in the 90's and Finland. If they have a few cases, they are mild, they run its course and are gone. You don't hear about the government flipping out. <br />BMJ called 41,000 measles cases in 1959 an epidemic but said it was a mild disease and no one was freaking over it. Measles epidemic [page 354] Br Med J 1959;1:351.2 (Published 07 February 1959) Measles were 99.4%abated before the vaccine was developed. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-68852074414277024322014-03-18T19:21:04.006-07:002014-03-18T19:21:04.006-07:00There is no coincidence that every media site has ...There is no coincidence that every media site has an "anti-vaxx" article on their site in the last 30 days. Dr. Brian Hooker has obtained the data from the Danish study and it proves what ha been know all along-mercury is dangerous and contributing to the rise in autism and other neurological/immunological problems that our children face today. Also, the number of vaccines has contributed to the fact that an entire generation of children has been lost because of greed. The articles has been an attempt to distract others from taking any articles in regards to that seriously by banging on the fear mongering drums.<br /><br />Also, the first comment is from a troll. They are assigned to be the first commenter on any website that has a vaccine article. If it's an article supporting the vaccine industry they start off saying vaccines are safe and effective. People who don't vaccinate their kids should be arrested or have their kids taken away. They also say how these people should be ashamed of themselves and how can they live with themselves. If the article is supportive of not vaccinating-well the prime example is at the top of the comments. There have been almost an identical article of the websites "Raw" and "Mother Jones". I'm sure these articles are being written by ghost writers who work either for the vaccine industry, FDA or CDC. They have their footprints all over it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-71587990236687019152014-03-18T17:57:23.906-07:002014-03-18T17:57:23.906-07:00This is pathetically hilarious! And "Anonymou...This is pathetically hilarious! And "Anonymous" of course!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04422351778391296408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-12520137568397241812014-03-18T17:25:29.654-07:002014-03-18T17:25:29.654-07:00Apparently you have no medical or science backgrou...Apparently you have no medical or science background<br /><br /> I have an extensive background in both. You are confusing a formalized education with "background" If I did not have a background in these subjects I would not have been so easily able to debunk the misleading assertion that the measles kills 1- 300<br /><br />-----<br /><br />now I am judging the writings of a one “parent” against one “pediatrician”. I’ll come back to that in a moment.<br /><br /><br /> No you are judging evidence provided to support each case. My evidence holds up. The doctor's does not<br /><br />-----<br /><br />I’m unconvinced by your rebuttal. Mentioning “anger” and “frustration” is not the same as writing in an uncontrolled and “looney” manner where emotion is over-riding the author’s ability to put together coherent thoughts. This latter interpretation is clearly what you were trying to imply and I see it as clearly wrong.<br /><br />The doctor admits he is filled with anger. I'm sorry you cannot accept this basic fact. I did not claim this caused him write in an uncontrolled manner. This is something you've pulled from thin air . And all your conclusion does is engage in mind reading<br /><br />----------<br /><br />with these types of beliefs and values,<br /><br />What types of beliefs and values? Everyone who does not vaccinates has the same ones? Sounds like some stereotyping going on here<br /><br />-----<br /><br />Pointing out one's fanaticism isn't an ad hominem attack. And ad hominem attack is against the person to refute or make a point in regards to an argument. You can better familiarize yourself with the concept here<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem<br /><br />-----------<br />And perhaps this link will help you better grasp the use of the "anti" label in propaganda efforts - unless you are simply pretending not to understand<br /><br />http://dondwest.hubpages.com/hub/Techniques-of-a-Defined-Propagandist-The-War-on-Ideas<br /><br />------------<br />The two sentences immediately after the “bringing it back” statement refer to the outbreak in New York City and the elimination of measles in the UNITED STATES in 2000<br /><br />This argument is unpersuasive <br /><br />--------------<br /><br />inaction (or “non-action” if you prefer) CAN cause harm. I can spray my house for termites, fail to do that in the future, and by my inaction, “bring back” termites in to my home. Placing the blame on the termites is just silly. It was my failure as a home-owner.<br /><br />Bad analogy. The termites are the cause of the harm. The failure to spray just fails to prevent them from harming the house. I do not understand why you find this concept elusive<br /><br />---------<br /><br />Kill the straw man arguments, the emotional and biased language, the hair-splitting semantics, and the misleading citations<br /><br /><br />I demonstrated quite clearly the citation supported the claim for which it was used. You have given no examples of straw man arguments so that assertion can be dismissed until you do. And you confuse accuracy with hair-splitting semantics<br />----------<br /><br />I am just pointing out that your post is riddled with emotionally charged and biased language along with straw man arguments and misleading information.<br /><br /><br />As you have failed repeatedly in your attempt to do this, your charge is invalid<br /><br />Robert Schecterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592918924115887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-18146984642038284352014-03-18T16:25:06.560-07:002014-03-18T16:25:06.560-07:00“Looney”, “anger”, etc.
I’m unconvinced by your r...“Looney”, “anger”, etc.<br /><br />I’m unconvinced by your rebuttal. Mentioning “anger” and “frustration” is not the same as writing in an uncontrolled and “looney” manner where emotion is over-riding the author’s ability to put together coherent thoughts. This latter interpretation is clearly what you were trying to imply and I see it as clearly wrong. The author’s tone was calm, clear, and concise. If you did an objective comparison between what he wrote and what you did, you would find many more emotionally-charged words and ad hominem attacks than what is contained in the DB article. <br /><br />“anti-vaxxer”<br /><br />I think you are splitting hairs. A reasonable person reading a site like yours certainly can pick up an anti-vaccination sentiment. I am sure there are subtleties (maybe not ALL vaccinations, maybe an emphasis on freedom of choice, etc.) but for purposes of making a reference to the general group of individuals with these types of beliefs and values, the term does not seem to me to be unduly misleading nor disparaging. And again, I would encourage you to try to do an objective comparison between the DB article and your own post regarding biased and propagandist wording. You would "win“ that contest by a comfortable margin.<br /><br />“anonymity”<br /><br />I think you have led a very closeted life or are just being disingenuous. There are many horror stories of how people have been the victims of character assassination on the Internet. Fake negative reviews on review sites, forced associations of a person’s name with unsavory topics on search engines – you name it. Wikipedia has an entry on Cyberstalking if you are truly ignorant of the concept. <br /><br />“The Vaccine Machine”<br /><br />Yes, I finally saw your name after looking hard. Now the question is: Who the heck is Robert Schecter (assuming that is your real name)? Apparently you have no medical or science background so now I am judging the writings of a one “parent” against one “pediatrician”. I’ll come back to that in a moment.<br /><br />“bringing back”<br /><br />The two sentences immediately after the “bringing it back” statement refer to the outbreak in New York City and the elimination of measles in the UNITED STATES in 2000. In your post, you specifically state “The measles exist in the world” like the pediatrician was ignorant of that fact. It seems ultra-clear to me that the doctor was completely aware of that fact and that it actually contributes to his concern.<br /><br />“inaction”<br /><br />My point is very simple: inaction (or “non-action” if you prefer) CAN cause harm. I can spray my house for termites, fail to do that in the future, and by my inaction, “bring back” termites in to my home. Placing the blame on the termites is just silly. It was my failure as a home-owner.<br /><br />“perception of the public”<br /><br />I am sure the pediatrician would AGREE with you regarding public perception. That is part of what compelled him to write the article! I maintain that the way you cited the article was misleading, whether on purpose or accidental. Your rebuttal only makes it worse in terms of generating confidence in you as a writer.<br /><br />= = =<br /><br />I am just pointing out that your post is riddled with emotionally charged and biased language along with straw man arguments and misleading information. You are worse than the pediatrician regarding the very things you are complaining about.<br /><br />If your objective is just to “preach to the choir” and get lots of referrals from people who already believe as you do, then you’re probably on the right track. If you are interested in serious debate of these issues though, you need to re-think the way you are writing. No objective person is going to consider seriously a critique claiming “propaganda, emotional lunacy, and misinformation” when the critique itself has those same attributes. Kill the straw man arguments, the emotional and biased language, the hair-splitting semantics, and the misleading citations and make the most solid points you have (assuming you have them). The only thing you really have separating you as a lone “parent” from a lone “pediatrician” is the quality of your logic and writing. Make it count.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-64014401268912613332014-03-18T12:30:58.265-07:002014-03-18T12:30:58.265-07:00The linked article, while having a mildly sensatio...The linked article, while having a mildly sensationalist title (and don’t they all these days?), seems not to be “looney” at all to me nor do I sense “anger” or “bitterness”<br /><br /> Perhaps you are not perceptive enough to recognize anger when it stares you in your face. This is from the "get out of my office" screed:<br /><br />Few topics are more apt to send my blood pressure skyrocketing than this. <br /><br />If there is an issue more controversial and fraught with anger and frustration for pediatricians than the question of vaccine safety, I can’t think of it<br /><br />-----<br /><br />"fail to see how “antivaxxer” is demonizing/objectifying"<br /><br />You probably can't apprehend the purpose of inserting terms such as vaccine denier and anti-vaccine crowd either. Simply not seeing the value in a product does not mean you are opposed to it. It simply means it's not right for you. So the only purpose of 'anti" is a propaganda device<br /><br />-------<br /><br />His anonymity also seems understandable given the controversy that surrounds this issue and the concern that mentally unstable persons may seek to harm him or his practice<br /><br /> I am unaware that such crimes have ever occurred so I don't know why you imagine it is understandable to worry them<br /><br />-----<br /><br />Speaking of which, I see no byline on this VM post and I see no identification of the people behind the “The Vaccine Machine”. Is that information available?<br /><br /> My name appears under the article and my photo appears on the right side of the page<br /><br />----------<br /><br />It is very clear in the article that the author is referring to bringing back measles TO THE UNITED STATES.<br /><br />No mention is made regarding measles being brought back to the united states so I don't know how you can draw your inference - regardless the term "bring back" is used to create the illusion of moral culpability but, since people who are infected overseas and return to America after becoming unknowingly infected are under no obligation to take vaccine after vaccine to make sure this does not happen. As I stated in the piece, no one is obligated to stop acts of God <br /><br />--------<br /><br />for one, recognize that inaction can cause harm or at the very least can amplify the harm of some external cause. I am not going to make the case that seatbelts aren’t necessary because car collisions cause harm to riders, not the “inaction” of not using a seatbelt. <br /><br /> This simply makes no sense. Perhaps you'd like to gather your thoughts and try again<br /><br />------<br /><br />The abstract of the very paper that the VM author links to finishes with the following statement: “The problem posed by measles is sufficiently grave to justify a national campaign urging the widespread vaccination of children<br /><br /> The link was posted as demonstration of how the illnesses is perceived by the public and it does that. Just because some overwrought public healther attaches his own distorted opinion at the end does not change the fact that the public does not fear the measles<br /><br />Robert Schecterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592918924115887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-84495529103550086502014-03-17T13:10:22.358-07:002014-03-17T13:10:22.358-07:00Regarding this “Vaccine Machine” post:
“It is writ...Regarding this “Vaccine Machine” post:<br />“It is written by a looney doctor . . .”<br />This statement has weak support. The linked article, while having a mildly sensationalist title (and don’t they all these days?), seems not to be “looney” at all to me nor do I sense “anger” or “bitterness”. I read it as coming from a doctor who is concerned about his patients and who has a certain amount of exasperation with patients who come to him for his expertise but then won’t listen to it. The actual article, by the way, does not have an exclamation point in the title.<br />“He continues by advancing a common tactic of the vaccine extremist: the attempt to demonize and objectify parents by labeling anyone . . . an “antivaxxxer.” “<br />I fail to see how “antivaxxer” is demonizing/objectifying. It is shorthand for “parents who don’t want to vaccinate their children”. It seems pretty neutral to me - accurate in its essential meaning, an understandable abbreviation, and by itself lacking the bias of “extremist” or “militant”.<br />“they have no choice but to attack people rather than defend their own claims.”<br />For the consciousness-raising intent that it clearly has, the DB article actually has quite a bit of support and “defense” provided when the hyperlinks are considered. A reader may decide that the support is wrong or insufficient but the implication that the author provided no support seems wrong.<br />“Interestingly this coward has no problem slandering parents while hiding his own name. . . . How pathetic.”<br />He did not use names of parents or patients. His anonymity also seems understandable given the controversy that surrounds this issue and the concern that mentally unstable persons may seek to harm him or his practice. He is making no claims that make his personal identification necessary. It is clearly an “opinion piece” in my mind and the Daily Beast is validating the author as being a being a pediatrician in New England. The identification of the author seems satisfactory to me given the type of article. It is at least as much as what I see on the typical “Internet Blog” involving this subject. Speaking of which, I see no byline on this VM post and I see no identification of the people behind the “The Vaccine Machine”. Is that information available?<br />“He claims, “those who don’t vaccinate are bringing back the measles.” This is preposterous . . .”<br />The support for the claim being preposterous is weak. It is very clear in the article that the author is referring to bringing back measles TO THE UNITED STATES. Of course measles exists in the world – that is the reason for the concern. The argument that inaction is not bringing measles back seems very petty and silly. I , for one, recognize that inaction can cause harm or at the very least can amplify the harm of some external cause. I am not going to make the case that seatbelts aren’t necessary because car collisions cause harm to riders, not the “inaction” of not using a seatbelt. This kind of petty argument makes me question the validity of the VM author’s whole post.<br /> “Although measles vaccine has been licensed since 1968, immunization against measles has not met with much success in France, partly because the disease is no longer feared”<br />Wow. The abstract of the very paper that the VM author links to finishes with the following statement: “The problem posed by measles is sufficiently grave to justify a national campaign urging the widespread vaccination of children.” The VM author is using a study to support a conclusion that is directly opposed to the conclusion of the study. That is at the very least a grave error on the VM author’s part and a deception if done intentionally. In either case, my confidence in the VM author is greatly diminished.<br />I’m tired at this point but I think I have read enough of this VM article to dismiss it. I think I have a healthy amount of skepticism where the government and big pharmaceutical companies are concerned but I have just as much skepticism for anonymous internet sites that can’t even put together a coherent argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-23531515018975776462014-03-17T12:50:53.395-07:002014-03-17T12:50:53.395-07:00If your immune system actually works as it should,...If your immune system actually works as it should, by being breastfed as an infant, having had good, wholesome food all your life, staying away from junk, and getting enough sleep, you should be able to handle most illnesses, even if you're not immune to them.<br />Vaccines don't offer immunity and are useless, and actually hurt your immune system.ursulamargrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02859784844977845957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-71764218911504194742014-03-17T12:44:41.005-07:002014-03-17T12:44:41.005-07:00You're a molecular biologist? Prove it by prov...You're a molecular biologist? Prove it by providing your real name, that we can look up.<br />And sure, children get sick, and it has been shown that vaccinated kids suffer 500% more illness than unvaccinated kids. Why is that? Because the immune systems of unvaccinated children haven't been altered, messed with and hampered, but were allowed to naturally mature, as God intended.<br />I am almost 61 years old. I grew up in Germany with six brothers and a sister. We and all our friends had all the childhood illnesses, and usually they weren't a problem whatsoever, and we ended up having lifelong immunity. Which we were able to pass onto our babies while breastfeeding, ensuring that our babies didn't get those illnesses while tiny babies. Which was good, because those illnesses can be life threatening in children under 12 months of age, at which point their immune systems can handle dealing with them without any problems.<br />There has never been any credible evidence that even a single vaccine in history has ever been safe or effective. None of them offer real immunity, and none of them are safe.<br />Before mass vaccination with the pertussis vaccine, there was no such a thing as SIDS. SIDS was invented to cover up the fact that the pertussis vaccine kills babies. Beforehand, no babies died in their sleep without a good reason.<br />The smallpox vaccine caused some of the worst smallpox epidemics in history. The Prussians made smallpox vaccination mandatory in 1834. They force-vaccinated their whole population not just once, but 4 to 10 times each for 35 years, and then suffered a smallpox epidemic that killed 148,000 people. Remember, this was a 100% vaccinated population (if you refused to vaccinate your child, the police would come, take the child to the doctor to be vaccinated, and then bring the kid back home; if a man refused the vaccine on commencement of mandatory military service, he'd be held down and would be vaccinated ten times on each arm, which I expect would usually result in death, so nobody dared).<br />As for the polio vaccine, it never worked at all, but actually causes polio. After they started polio vaccinations, they suddenly re-named most cases of what would have been diagnosed as polio as aseptic meningitis, encephalitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome, CFS, MS, acute flaccid paralysis and several others, which is how they made it look like the vaccine worked.<br />As for the terrible picture of iron lungs? Kids with acute flaccid paralysis are still put onto the equivalent of those, except that now they look a lot less daunting, with the little oxygen tank and the small cut and hookup to the throat, but it is the same thing. And according to doctors at the Mayo Clinic, they have plenty of those cases, which are REALLY polio.<br />Not to mention that India, which has just been declared polio free thanks to the vaccine, has had more than 50,000 new cases of acute flaccid paralysis in the past two years, which their own researchers admit are directly caused by the polio vaccine, and actually IS polio.<br />I could give many more examples, but this will have to suffice.ursulamargrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02859784844977845957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-13026091339161783122014-03-17T12:24:31.482-07:002014-03-17T12:24:31.482-07:00Marsha, I agree with everything you said 100%.
And...Marsha, I agree with everything you said 100%.<br />And as for 'anonymous' (another coward, just like the anonymous doctor), get a life. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.ursulamargrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02859784844977845957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-45099488214370935292014-03-16T21:39:16.642-07:002014-03-16T21:39:16.642-07:00Just wow!!! There is a good reason why people are...Just wow!!! There is a good reason why people are vaccinated when they travel. It's because you come in contact with things that you have no immunity. There are people from all over the world everyday coming into this great country of ours. A lot of them ARE NOT VACCINATED, but they have immunity to the things that will infect us with, just by coming contact with us. That everybody else is protecting your kid because they vaccinated! That is some twisted stuff right there. Who said everyone else's kids are vaccinated? Just because you have had a vaccine does not mean that a titer would come back at a safe level immunization. I would know because I have been vaccinated with the mmr twice. I also only had two of the hep B vaccine because I only needed two. The hep B is normally a three series of shots. Yes vaccines are different for everyone, but not taking a precaution when you know the risk is selfish. It's not like everyone comes through immigration or customs to get here. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-24393784982605580782014-03-16T20:28:50.043-07:002014-03-16T20:28:50.043-07:00I really wish I could edit this.I really wish I could edit this.Momof4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-71638518282549312442014-03-16T12:53:51.185-07:002014-03-16T12:53:51.185-07:00Except that the majority of the "herd" (...Except that the majority of the "herd" (adults) have not been immune for decades and yet, no massive increase in disease. And over half of the "outbreak" cases are in vaccinated people. It's pretty clear that vaccine herd immunity, which was only ever a theory based on a mistaken belief that 1 vaccine would provide the same life long immunity as the disease, is completely impossible. And yet, the so-called scientific side refuses to admit that the evidence proves their sacred cow is a hoax.AlsoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-5441465728057371932014-03-16T07:30:16.343-07:002014-03-16T07:30:16.343-07:00Well I have posted a couple of responses but the r...Well I have posted a couple of responses but the rest are from at least one other person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-53575764948885710702014-03-16T07:27:31.095-07:002014-03-16T07:27:31.095-07:00I'm sure this person enjoys their television &...I'm sure this person enjoys their television 'PROGRAMMING' more than most. I'm sure this person excelled in their educational 'PROGRAMMING' more than most. And I'd bet this person is very knowledgeable about current media and government 'PROGRAMS' ... Perfectly Programmed ;D <br /><br />If only we all were perfectly programmed ... How much easier the lives of the handful of people would be, the handful of people who dictate all the programming. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-55855820691335105632014-03-16T04:49:38.386-07:002014-03-16T04:49:38.386-07:00PS I guess I am actually called anonymous 3
PS I guess I am actually called anonymous 3<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-32070853932845095462014-03-16T04:43:23.566-07:002014-03-16T04:43:23.566-07:00it sounds to me that annonyous one is posing as an...it sounds to me that annonyous one is posing as an authority on a subject that he obviously hasn't gone outinto the field to get the true facts, instead he is positing all of the pharmaceutical bullshit that they keep throwing up, my guess is that he is only a n internet troll working for the industry , so his input is not valid at all guys, people like myself who have been around for nigh on seventy years and have seen the truth re the vaccine bullshit know, that good food and good health practices, and natural medicines are all that is needed to protect oneself from all of there so called killer diseases, because they have strong immune systems to defend themselves, HE is obviously blind to all of the damages done to children and adults through vaccines, the evidence is out there ,one only has to open there eyes to see it, but no he wont do that , he will just quote more statistical bullshit from his ivory tower, I would say to him , go hang your head in shame, you are the one doing all the harm perpetuating pharmaceutical fraud onto innocent children and adults!!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-27221373676510774312014-03-16T04:07:18.102-07:002014-03-16T04:07:18.102-07:00They are killing you! Do you think the 1 in 29 bab...They are killing you! Do you think the 1 in 29 babies now being born severely multiply infected matter to medical mafia USA? LOL Ask Insel and Issa, heads of brilliance guarding the Autism funding why still today NOT ONE antibiotic treatment is offered for kids suffering the real cause of AIDS! <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY<br /><br />Ask the US Army why they gave our soldiers Anthrax and Smallpox antigens so Thousands would suffer their crimes against humanity of PTSD with 22 taking their lives because of recombinations of their junk infectious DNA growing in their brains! <br />http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5147&p=37251#p37251<br /><br />Ask the MILLIONS suffering SINDUMBS caused by the same infections if they like having to suffer MS, Autism, Alzheimers, Lupus, Parkinson's, Diabetes, ALS, ALD, MD, ME, CFS, GWS, PTSD, Crohn's, Celiac, Kawasaki's, Arthritis', Down's, and hundreds more lies they thunk up so they could keep killing stupid American's by adding to the mix. <br />http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4840&p=36246#p36246Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-25323485413348491062014-03-16T03:58:45.360-07:002014-03-16T03:58:45.360-07:00No vaccine ever protected anyone from anything. Th...No vaccine ever protected anyone from anything. They are ALL INFECTIVE! After they gave us all the antigenic variation of the real cause of AIDS for decades that recombines in the viral/prion/fungal synergy that is spirochetal disease even their junk GMO is growing in your guts, skin, and brains. Your an idiot if you think IMMUNE SUPPRESSION equals PROTECTION. Autism kids suffer massive infections in that immune suppression because of INFECTIOUS VACCINES. <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-77586015421106458952014-03-16T03:55:04.030-07:002014-03-16T03:55:04.030-07:00HIV never caused AIDS. Spirochetal disease in all ... HIV never caused AIDS. Spirochetal disease in all of its hundreds, poss. thousands of morphological forms did and do! Cos they gave it to all of us for decades. Who is the ONE who has the right to say WHO LIVES OR WHO MUST DIE because criminals lied to us? <br />http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5147&p=37251#p37251Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-449103851997749572014-03-16T03:51:26.857-07:002014-03-16T03:51:26.857-07:00What is that reality Robert? Could it be the FAC...What is that reality Robert? Could it be the FACT 1 in 29 babies are now being born with the real cause of AIDS? <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY<br /><br /> Could it be that millions suffer hundreds of neurological syndromes all caused by the same? <br />http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4840&p=36246#p36246<br /><br />Could it be that Thousand of US soldiers are suffering criminal neglect and failure to treat their PTSD also caused by the same with 22 a day taking their own lives? Could it be because our criminal Medical Mafia KNEW in 1985 what really caused AIDS and did nothing to stop criminals from adding junk infectious DNA to the gene sharing stealth infections they already gave them? <br />http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5147&p=37251#p37251<br /><br />At what POINT do you think reality will set in to the fact we all already have everything we need to activate latent infections that is and always was the real cause of AIDS----Spirochetal disease we all got in vaccines for decades killing America. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com