tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post3940106481382619378..comments2024-03-27T14:38:55.830-07:00Comments on The Vaccine Machine: Mr. Ropeik’s HiveRobert Schecterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17592918924115887297noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-29919049835125799112011-09-23T20:22:17.087-07:002011-09-23T20:22:17.087-07:00David Ropeik isn't an instructor at Harvard. ...David Ropeik isn't an instructor at Harvard. He is the communications director for HARVARD'S CENTER FOR RISK ANALYSIS. He has already been bought and paid for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-15914222514588588952011-09-16T18:32:57.453-07:002011-09-16T18:32:57.453-07:00We need to kill the government and big pharmaWe need to kill the government and big pharmaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-66120236729926564452011-07-28T20:26:40.541-07:002011-07-28T20:26:40.541-07:00Well, there might be and there might not be. At th...Well, there might be and there might not be. At the moment we have a claim by one anonymous commenter. But thanks for sharing your unsubstantiated claim of censorship.Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12834476072596898758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-24188497642443551602011-07-28T07:14:17.991-07:002011-07-28T07:14:17.991-07:00Ask Ms. Dachel. There are plenty of PhDs, MDs, epi...Ask Ms. Dachel. There are plenty of PhDs, MDs, epidemiologists, biologists, and other scientists from all walks of life and all levels of education that submit comments to AoA to counter their lies. None of those comments get through. Should they get through by accident, Ms. Dachel and her colleagues quickly do away with said comments, lest they affect the bottom line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-75944650982961222422011-07-26T20:17:36.190-07:002011-07-26T20:17:36.190-07:00There is a "scientific community" which ...There is a "scientific community" which wants to comment on Age of Autism? Who are these folks? And how do they constitute the scientific community?Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12834476072596898758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-91945717546241335492011-07-26T06:07:43.352-07:002011-07-26T06:07:43.352-07:00Funny that you complain about a comment not being ...Funny that you complain about a comment not being published when Age of Autism (you reading, Dachel?) goes to extraordinary lengths to block comments from the scientific community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-81896785217827779142011-07-25T17:12:14.915-07:002011-07-25T17:12:14.915-07:00I made a comment on that article but since I menti...I made a comment on that article but since I mentioned nazi Germany, it wasn't published.<br /><br />I once commented something on a IV post on FB about how things are going to get much worse before they get better. Once the school exemption numbers rise close to 30-40% we will see a much more aggressive propaganda instigating people against people through fear and repetitive lies.<br /><br />If a few years ago not many gave a though about this subject, in a few years it will be on everybody's mind, one way or another.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03865454453025627049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-23461802091903516892011-07-24T15:48:27.376-07:002011-07-24T15:48:27.376-07:00What mr. Ropeik suggests in this piece is unconst...What mr. Ropeik suggests in this piece is unconstitutional, anti-democratic and frightening. It's a crime to see this dictatorial speech printed in so many newspapers.<br />We all have the right to determine what drugs go into our bodies and those of our chidlren. Vaccine choice and parental consent, the cornerstones of our government. Mr Ropeik can go and preach his sermon on any street corner in the US, but it doesn't belong in our newspapers.<br />Maurine meleck, SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-88020488358667817882011-07-24T09:27:47.349-07:002011-07-24T09:27:47.349-07:00On June 28, 2011, parents and medical experts test...On June 28, 2011, parents and medical experts testified before the MA House on a bill to allow philosophical exemptions from vaccines in that state. Listen to the parents describe what happened to their children. It is especially notable that one mom hold up a photo of her son covered with massive red patches all over his body within hours of receiving the MMR vaccine.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_1X_iLVGA&feature=youtu.beThe<br /> <br />See the new book, Vaccine Epidemic by Louise Kuo Habakus and Mary Holland is a good source.http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Epidemic-Corporate-Coercive-Government/dp/1616082720 . Also see: the National Vaccine Information Center http://www.nvic.org/. Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of <br /> <br />Anne Dachel<br />Media editor: Age of AutismAnne Dachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-17481909588321373152011-07-24T09:26:49.442-07:002011-07-24T09:26:49.442-07:00Ropeik is a relentless promoter of vaccines as all...Ropeik is a relentless promoter of vaccines as all-good. He fails to mention that parents can't sue doctors or vaccine makers if their child is injured. They have blanket protection. Parents have to go to a special vaccine court. This is a adversarial process where parents face government lawyers defending a government program using government money. Thousands of parents of vaccine damaged children never get their cases heard. Despite this, the federal vaccine court has paid out over 2 billion dollars for severe damage including death since 1986. <br /> <br />Anne Dachel<br />Media editor: Age of AutismAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-76969960306828895412011-07-24T06:58:49.428-07:002011-07-24T06:58:49.428-07:00Shawn Siegel posting:
This is a case of adding in...Shawn Siegel posting:<br /><br />This is a case of adding injury - to the insult of the injection of pathogens and a host of toxins, where in almost all instances the immune system evolved instead to defend against inhalation or ingestion of typically but a single pathogen per contagion, and never a thought was given to the types of accompanying contaminants that are found in vaccines.<br /><br />The paradigm continues only because in most cases the illusion of benefit has outweighed the reality of the damage caused every recipient, to one degree or another; buttressed by the strictly controlled media, which touts the ostensible benefits and censors discussion of the damage. But that's changing, as the injury increases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-63786311108745343832011-07-22T12:47:15.841-07:002011-07-22T12:47:15.841-07:00Please look at official mortality statistics and s...Please look at official mortality statistics and see, that 98% of measles mortality has disappeared years before vaccine was invented in 1960's...<br /><br />So much for the "Vaccination eradicates disease" fairy tale.<br /><br />http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/281/1/61<br /><br />A little less official but more verbose links:<br />http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/<br /><br />http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2654:united-states-disease-death-rates&catid=55:united-states-deaths-from-diseases&Itemid=55Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-60553840200644263702011-07-22T11:32:46.861-07:002011-07-22T11:32:46.861-07:00"Dependent", you anti-vaccine wordsmith,..."Dependent", you anti-vaccine wordsmith, you. It's "dependent", not "dependant". "Dependant" is not a word. Simple spell-check for such an accomplished writer as you should not be terribly difficult.<br /><br />Good luck with your book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-10088731508790263932011-07-22T03:45:35.615-07:002011-07-22T03:45:35.615-07:00I'd rather take the risk of measles any day, t...I'd rather take the risk of measles any day, than the risk of neurological disorders including autism and also bowel disorders caused by MMR. <br /><br />When I was a child, everyone got these childhood illnesses, because vaccinations against them did not exits, yet the streets were not littered with dead children's bodies, as the needle nuts would like us to believe. <br /><br />Vaccination is IMO an absolute fraud.Erwin Albernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-47295897696204893342011-07-21T20:27:50.272-07:002011-07-21T20:27:50.272-07:00Kathy, yes indeed there are ways to keep people fr...Kathy, yes indeed there are ways to keep people from catching illnesses at healthcare facilities. For example, where I live there was an outbreak of chickenpox. Most of the children who got it go to the same medical practice, but no one got it through the medical practice, they got it on purpose at local CP parties. So how did the medical practice avoid spreading CP to the people who didn't want it? The doctors saw the CP kids (so they could put it into their medical records, none actually needed medical care) in their cars out in the parking lot. Then the doctors went back inside and washed up carefully before they saw another patient. <br /><br />http://www.hospitalimpact.org/index.php/2011/07/19/better_hand_washing_fewer_infections_wit<br /><br />1.7 millions infections in hospitals.<br /><br />I think the very filthy kettle is calling the rather shiny pot black.Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12834476072596898758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-2054549130656923152011-07-21T14:08:01.000-07:002011-07-21T14:08:01.000-07:00The SSPE paragraph is from WikipediaThe SSPE paragraph is from WikipediaRobert Schecterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592918924115887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-34630871640027133292011-07-21T14:07:06.840-07:002011-07-21T14:07:06.840-07:00Kathy, I think the meningitis to which you're ...Kathy, I think the meningitis to which you're referring is a type of encephalitis<br /><br />Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a rare chronic, progressive encephalitis that affects primarily children and young adults, caused by a persistent infection of immune resistant measles virus (which can be a result of a mutation of the virus itself). 1 in 100,000 people infected with measles develop SSPE<br /><br />Anyway even the 1 in 100,000 may overstate the risk since it refers to reported not overall cases and in the pre-vaccine era there were 10x more cases than reported cases. Today there is evidence that the risk for SSPE is higher but that data comes from one "epidemic" between 1989-91 in which the most vulnerable populations were most affected: the poor and the young. The imapact on the young is thought to be influenced by a reduction in the quality of maternal antibodies due to mothers of the time having vaccine induced, rather than natural immunity. So no I don't think death is a "very real threat." i think it is in a healthy, well-nourished child a highly unlikely one. But I think it's up to parents, not the government, to make the risk / reward calculation in regards to vaccination.Robert Schecterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592918924115887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-68508126205811523252011-07-21T12:42:04.421-07:002011-07-21T12:42:04.421-07:00Yes, the government's job is to track diseases...Yes, the government's job is to track diseases<br /><br />And yes measles can be mostly mild but meningitis is a real threat for up to five years following the measles and that is very serious.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265968595848523357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-9821851363595543452011-07-21T12:40:26.636-07:002011-07-21T12:40:26.636-07:00Mr Ropeik said that an unvaccinated woman contract...Mr Ropeik said that an unvaccinated woman contracted the disease and spread it to other unvaccinated people. There is no way to prevent people from catching diseases at healthcare facilities but if all of these people had been vaccinated for measles, they likely would not have spread measles in the first place. <br /><br />And if they had caught measles in childhood, they also might have caught meningitis and possibly died. That is a very real threat, much more likely that any lasting side effect to a vaccine. <br /><br />I don't understand why the unvaxed keep trying to prove that they are not spreading disease. If you want to make a choice not to vax, that is fine with me. But don't argue that your kids are healthier, because they are not necessarily, and don't argue that you are not spreading diseases, because there are some which you are spreading, like measles. <br /><br />No one should be forced to have a vaccination but the rising number of unvaxed in the USA is truly putting the community at risk.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265968595848523357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-56590270507234842972011-07-21T12:18:39.230-07:002011-07-21T12:18:39.230-07:00Mr. Ropeik also failed to note how many of the &qu...Mr. Ropeik also failed to note how many of the "victims" suffered any lasting morbidity or any mortality, likely because the answer is "zero", which makes $800K look like a really ridiculously unnecessary expenditure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-78585763476617153052011-07-21T12:04:30.370-07:002011-07-21T12:04:30.370-07:00You missed something!
"Seven of the victims ...You missed something! <br />"Seven of the victims caught the disease while visiting healthcare facilities."<br /><br />This indicates that healthcare facilities are doing an absolutely catastrophically bad job of handling illness. People should not be catching diseases at healthcare facilities, but they do, constantly. We don't suffer from a vaccine shortage we suffer from an excess of sloppy management at doctor's offices and hospitals.<br /><br />Mr. Ropeik also left out the sad fact that some of the people who caught measles at the healthcare facilities were vaccinated adults. The vaccine didn't protect them. If they had gone through measles in childhood...they would have had real immunity.Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12834476072596898758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738066875990661293.post-16193382818679641562011-07-21T11:43:46.843-07:002011-07-21T11:43:46.843-07:00I will not vaccinate my kids...vaccinations do not...I will not vaccinate my kids...vaccinations do not ensure "immunity" and they sure as heck guarantee that my kids' bodies will be filled with unhealthy stuff.<br /><br />If people do not agree with not vaccinating, they are more than welcome to go shoot themselves and their kids up. I do ask, however, whether people are really educated as to the side effects and other injuries caused by vaccinating. Autism, Wakefield, and Jenny McCarthy aside...I'm sure if they started delving into the realm of vaccine damages, they would start to see why others are not so excited to vax themselves or their families.<br /><br />As for insurance...we do not even have insurance. We put money aside for "emergencies". We do well-child visits with a DO and a chiro. Keep your "health" care and keep your vaxes. I am more than happy supporting my children's very strong immune system with proper sleep habits, healthy nutrition (not store bought crap labeled as healthy) and fresh, clean water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com